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July 21, 2013


George Zimmerman Discussion Thread – Post Verdict






P. Video Interview

D. Video Interview






Married 10 years, 8 kids

B29 Prosecution

B29 Defense

Recently moved to central Florida from Chicago. She enjoys watching the “Real Housewives” on television and works as a nurse on an Alzheimer’s section of a nursing home. She said she hadn’t paid much attention to the shooting. She said she has been arrested, but her case was disposed of. It’s not clear why she was arrested or exactly what happened to her case, though she said she was treated fairly. She is married and has several children. A prosecutor described her as “black or Hispanic” during jury selection.





Married, 2 kids

B76 Prosecution

B76 Defense

Has lived in central Florida for 18 years. She manages rental properties with her husband of 30 years. She has two adult children, including one who is an attorney. She is involved with rescuing animals in her free time. During jury selection, she said she had been the victim of a nonviolent crime. “Everyone deserves a fair trial,” she said. The prosecutor wanted this juror struck.





Married 20 years, 2 kids

B37 Prosecution

B37 Defense

Volunteers rescuing animals. She is married to an attorney and has two adult children. She said she and her husband used to have concealed weapons permits. During the last round of questioning, she said she had an issue with the type of weapons people are allowed to carry. She also thought weapons’ training was inadequate for people seeking permits. “It should become harder,” she said. She has let her permit lapse.





Unmarried, no kids

B51 Prosecution

B51 Defense

Retired, not married and doesn’t have kids. She has lived in Seminole County for nine years. From Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She has worked in real estate and run a call center where she said she had experience resolving conflicts. When asked if Zimmerman did something wrong by following Martin instead of waiting for police, she said: “Yeah, I guess he did do something wrong.”





Married, 2 kids

E6 Prosecution

E6 Defense

Warned kids not to give “false impression” about themselves. A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night.Husband an engineer. Children are 11 and 13. Husband and son have guns. Victim of Domestic Abuse. Unemployed, volunteers at kids’ school. 2-year Seminole Co. resident, had lived in Orange Co. since 2004. Saw an innocent person go to prison. The prosecutor tried 3 times to get this juror struck.





Married, 1 son

E40 Prosecution

E40 Defense

Moved to FL from Iowa in Nov. 2012. She heard national-news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. Worked as safety officer, husband is a chemical engineer. Son is 28. Was on jury 20 years ago in Pa. drug dealing case. She shared she has been a victim on a nonviolent crime. She describes herself as a football fan.

33 thoughts on “July 21, 2013

    • Three lies in the first paragraph of the first post.

      “12 year old soon to be stepbrother”
      “can of Arizona Iced tea”
      “George Zimmerman murdered him” (GZ was found not guilty)

      Possibly four lies if you consider the missing time when TM was NW of the 7-11. I forget if the missing time was before or after the stop at 7-11.

      “begin to walk home”

      Good start. /sarcasm

    • This is scary and I believe unconstitutional. It takes away our rights to protect ourselves if we are not allowed to keep an eye on someone suspicious just because we may be carrying a concealed weapon. This is all predicated on a lie.

      What can law abiding citizens do to counter these lying protests? I just don’t know what we can do other than have our own pro self defense protests. But I fear doing so will cause a race riot. I doubt the media would cover such protests. They control what the people see. It would be up to the bloggers. These protesters who have violent and threatening signs should be arrested, but with Eric Holder and Obama in the White House they will get away with these illegal threats. I’m very frustrated.

    • Brendan Kirby gets it wrong here:

      “Had Zimmerman stayed in his car to make the 911 call and kept a safe distance, this likely never would have happened. Had he not been carrying a gun, he may not have felt emboldened to get close to him.”

      George was in his car when he called 911 and he did keep a safe distance. George *never* tried to get close to Trayvon. This sort of misinformation drives me crazy. George thought the kid was long gone (these a$$holes always get away). When he was on the phone with NEN he didn’t want to give out his address *in case* Trayvon was somewhere lurking. I’d bet that while the thought that Travyon might still be near crossed his mind he probably thought, “Naaaah”. I’ve had those times when I was a little careless and put myself in potential harm’s way and thought, “Naaaah”. Thank God nothing happened.

      George did nothing morally wrong.

  1. Trayvon Martin: Did protesters miss Obama’s point?

    President Barack Obama’s comments about race and Trayvon Martin continued to reverberate on Sunday morning chat shows.

    One point stood out in the discussions. Obama seemed to be lowering expectations about a Department of Justice investigation against George Zimmerman, agreed David Gregory of NBC’s “Meet the Press” and Candy Crowley of CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    On “Meet the Press,” Charles Ogletree, a professor at Harvard Law School, said it was a state issue, not a federal one.

    On the same program, PBS host Tavis Smiley applauded protesters who honored Trayvon but said they missed the point. Obama basically said the Department of Justice investigation “ain’t going no further,” Smiley said.

    Obama was not saying there is no hope at the national level, said Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. But she added that Obama was “managing expectations” and saying there was no guarantee a federal hate crime could be brought against Zimmerman.


    Hopefully, GZ’s nightmare will fall from the news ONLY WHEN another disaster replaces it, another high profile case becomes the focus of the media, a mass shooting of the innocent as we had seen in the Colorado movie theater murders, the children @ Sandy Hook, the Boston Bombings when innocence was slaughtered, or 3 women held captive & chained for over 10 yrs. like we saw in Cleveland. Isn’t that sad, that another painful event for someone else will have to dominate the news & MEDIA to take the focus off an innocent man that is being publicly lynched, for the 2nd time. jmho.

  2. Standing Up For the Constitution
    The Constitution is not a rough draft. You don’t get to edit or erase parts of it to delete rights for an unpopular or hated defendant.

    The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the rights of the citizen accused from the awesome powers of the Government. It was not enacted to protect the rights of crime victims.

    The presumption of innocence is a bedrock of our criminal justice system that applies to the person charged with a crime, not the victim of a crime.

    Self-defense is an affirmative defense that may be raised by a defendant in court in response to a criminal charge. [More…]


    • I posted Jeralyn’s post on our Oakland crime prevention yahoo group which has numerous city officials, police dpt brass, and community leaders participating. In Oakland, the politicians have directed the cops to hold back arresting protesters who are breaking the law.

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