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July 22, 2013

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    • I posted that yesterday, but I am glad you have reposted the article. The whole civil rights movement has leverage all its credibility that it had on this case. It managed to get charges filed on GZ, and thought that the threat of more of the same would mean that GZ would get convicted. Unfortunately for them the women on the jury saw right through that and applied the law properly.

      Now they are throwing a hissy fit, calling all their favors to try to get the Federal Government involved, and they are finding out that most people don’t care. Is not like in the beginning when little was known about the characters, now the truth is out there for everyone to see, and no matter how hard they try to twist things around, it just not happening. The protests have fizzled, IIRC the largest was 2,000 people in NYC, which has over 2 million black residents on the City itself and if you include the Metro Area the number jumps to over 4 million.

      Even Jay-Z and Beyonce 2 of the world’s largest recording artist being present for that rally, did little to change the attendance. Notice also how they refused to be photograph in a group picture. They are not stupid, but black America, is allowing themselves to be used to prop up a once venerable organization that has lost its way, and it is becoming obsolete.

      • Those who had the most to lose, lost even more. Even the “winners” lost, if there were any winners lost, but IMO, no one won. Even justice has still not been served. The criminals remain free without bail.

  1. I thought Sunny Hostin would have been upset with Natalie Jackson for lying to her about having a sworn affidivit from Rachel Jeantel after the March 19th interview. On March 20th, Sunny took those lies to CNN air telling the public, the girl gave a sworn statement about what she heard. Leaving the public to think she gave her statement under threat of penalty of perjury. We now know from Crump’s affidivit that was a lie.

    Alas, Sunny wasn’t upset she was lied to and has joined the Scheme Team in spreading lies. CNN should take her off air but they won’t. CNN has decided what version of the truth needs to air and the real truth won’t ever be told on that network.

    • Love this guy. I’ve seen him on several interviews. If I’m not mistaken, he was a pastor (he may still be a pastor) and either lost his church or the majority of his congregation because he was speaking the truth and trying to get the black community to step up to the plate, so to speak.

      When men like this tell it like it is they are run out of town. At this point, much of the black community don’t want to hear it. I guess more of them need to continue to speak out and hopefully, eventually more of the black community will see the light and jump on board. It will have to be a grass roots effort because the media will have *none* of it and neither will the progressive politicians.

  2. “Ondray Harris, the former director of the Department of Justice’s “Community Relations Service,” recently told the Daily Caller that he “regularly had to warn or take corrective action against career employees for acting as advocates instead of mediators.”

    The news follows explosive claims that the CRS, which says it provides “violence prevention and conflict resolution services,” actively helped to organize and foment unrest during the anti-George Zimmerman protests of 2012.

    “I found that some employees of CRS talked neutrally in public and spoke in the tenor of mediators in public, but behind the scenes, when they talked to the civil rights groups or the perceived aggrieved parties, they’ll say, essentially, ‘Don’t worry. The Department of Justice is here, and we’re going to get to the bottom of it,’” Harris reportedly said.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/22/former-director-of-doj-group-sent-to-monitor-trayvon-martin-protests-employees-known-to-act-as-advocates-instead-of-mediators/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons

  3. One very important issue to me is will Crump and the State of Florida face consequences? Has anyone heard anything factual about any of this?

    • I said this cynically last year, but now I mean it, Crump will get some sort of award for his advocacy of his client. As for the State aside from a possible boycott by the NAACP and like minded groups nothing. Corey looks to by sued by the fired IT director, but until I see the lawsuit, I don’t think she will face anything else. This was a hot potato of a case and my feeling is that the less said about it the best it is for all concerned, so I predict that in the near future no one will be mentioning this case and act as if it never happened.

    • jordan2222 – I posted this link the other day but may be you didn’t see it.

      The link lines up what is outstanding in the case.

      (1) Judge Nelson has to decide how much longer the jurors will remain anonymous
      (2) SZ’s perjury trial
      (3) GV VS NBC
      (4) The lawsuit brought by former Security Guards seeking payment, they are suing GZ/SZ/MOM
      (5) The sanctions are to be heard by Judge Nelson, I don’t expect her to do anything but I guess MOM/West can appeal.

      http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-unfinished-business-20130721,0,1523006.story

      • Thank you very much. What I’m really looking for probably will not happen.. investigation of Crump and the State (not just BLDR) for what they did. Every blog I have read before the verdict spoke extensively about that but not now.. at least not factual..

  4. “The situation in Twin Lakes, Bertalan told reporters later, was frightening. “Everyone felt afraid and scared,“ she told Reuters. “People were freaked out,” she told Reuters. “It wasn’t just George calling police. . . . We were calling police at least once a week.” She says she and her husband talked with Zimmerman daily following the burglary at their home.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/354042/neighborhood-zimmerman-watched-ian-tuttle

      • I remember reading that in the one year period that GZ called police 40 something times (which people were all up in arms about), the community itself called the police 400 something times – I was disappointed when that didn’t come out at trial – at least I didn’t hear it.

        • The number of calls GZ made was misinformation. In a 5 year period preceeding the shooting he made 46 calls. He lived at RATL for 3 years. The neighborhood watch program began in Sept. 2011 and since it started until the shooting, GZ made 4 calls (Including the TM call).

          From January 1, 2011 until Feb. 26, 2012, the community called the police 411 times. 12 of those times were made by GZ.

          The housing complex had 260 homes.

          The trial concentrated on the calls made since the home invasion in August 2011 and the prosecutor submitted 5 of the 6 calls that GZ made. The defense put in the 6th call and asked the jury to consider why the prosecutor didn’t include it but only the calls that dealt with black youth.

          The 6th call dealt with GZ’s concern about young kids playing in the street and his concern was they could be hit by a car.

    • I was thinking how George might have responded when LE asked for his name and address… I guess he simply gave them one of O’Mara’s cards and said, “Call my lawyer.” He will probably NEVER talk to LE again.

  5. Yes, Ms. Butler.. there really is a Santa Claus:

    “God ain’t good all of the time. In fact, sometimes, God is not for us,’ she wrote in the post. ‘As a black woman in an [sic] nation that has taken too many pains to remind me that I am not a white man, and am not capable of taking care of my reproductive rights, or my voting rights, I know that this American god ain’t my god.

    As a matter of fact, I think he’s a white racist god with a problem. More importantly, he is carrying a gun and stalking young black men.”

    http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/antheabutler/7195/the_zimmerman_acquittal__america_s_racist_god/

    • Obama was misquoted, He actually said this:

      “First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to GEORGE ZIMMERMAN AND HIS FAMILY,” Obama said.

    • This a great but it bothers me that some “ambitious” reporter, like Matt Guttman, is going to use this to locate George. He is just the kind of nice guy to help us all learn that information.

      • That’s something I thought of, too. George needs to be very careful. I hope he looks over his shoulder at all times. I know that is not fun, but it is necessary for now, at least.

  6. I was thinking about all of the books which will surely be published after the furor has died down. I have not seen anything substantive yet. Has anyone else?

    Any guesses as to which network will be the first to do a factual documentary about the George Zimmerman case?

    • Malco writes, “will not be capable of intelligent, empathetic debate until they’ve cooled down and afforded themselves an education.”

      I really think there was a time when we were moving forward, but at some point, the Al Sharpton’s of the world jumped in and things have been going downhill ever since.

      When I think about the Tawana Brawley case and others in which Sharpton played the leading role, and Sharpton NEVER taking responsibility, I would like to ask Mr. Malco if he has any idea “how long that will take?

      Notice his recent well-defined position on the George Zimmerman case.

    • I wish MOM would not have allowed Cuomo to get away with saying that George was justified “under the law” implying that George is morally guilty. At least that is how I interpreted the conversation. Would it have been wise for George to have stayed in the vehicle? Yes. But I believe he truly believed that the danger had passed once he saw Trayvon round the corner between the buildings.

  7. Sanford police deliver George Zimmerman case evidence to FBI

    Sanford police confirmed Monday they had delivered boxes of evidence from their investigation into George Zimmerman to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Orlando office.

    Capt. Jim McAuliffe said the delivery — which includes the gun Zimmerman used to fatally shoot Trayvon Martin — was shipped to the FBI at its request.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-evidence-fbi-20130722,0,3559428.story

    This is pure harassment imo,.If there was one scintilla of evidence that this was a “hate crime,” the State Prosecutors would have jumped on that so fast, but imo, the evidence was not there. LMAO, so does the FBI think Corey/BDLR were just STUPID? Another bitch slap to Corey.

    The same thing happened after KC’s trial, Caylee supporters were screaming for Federal charges BUT KC didn’t break any laws that would subject her to charges by the FBI, DOJ, etc.

    • No doubt about it. We are witnessing an abuse of power.

      If men in power can’t follow laws and need to act on their emotions of their life experiences, you will see them abuse the power given them.

  8. In 2008 Pat Buchanan penned a letter to Barack O’Bama following the Pastor Wright issues. Snopes says this letter is correctly attributed.http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/buchanan-wright.asp

    In light of the President’s recent remarks, consider what Buchanan wrote then:

    “Interesting letter. BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to…. This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
    First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
    Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
    We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??
    Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids…? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America ‘s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
    Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
    As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
    Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
    We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.
    Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!
    I’m for a better America…
    I am
    Not racist,
    Not violent,
    Just not silent anymore”

    • You are amazing to know so much about us. I made numerous posts about her and the history of SYG at CTH long ago. SYG was passed by an “overwhelming” majority of our legislature including 100 percent of the Senate.

      Did you major in history?

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