in front of someone’s face is rude and I won’t tolerate here. If anyone wants to have a private conversation with me and wants to keep it private, I will do that.
If you decide to bring that conversation in front of everyone, then don’t expect the conversation to stay private.
Hopefully, as you read this you are getting a duplicate look at the emails that Sundance forwarded to me unannounced on Feb. 22, 2013. You can compare if he changed or deleted anything.
You can now be a part of the conversation about their validity and whether you notice if any of this seeped into the online conversations at the treehouse.
As Sundance chose to talk about this email in front of everyone here (which I find extremely rude and I’m quite surprised so many of you were so polite about it) he has lost any commitment from me to keep the email private. As for the sender, now that I’m quite certain it wasn’t sent from George’s family and the fact that the sender says they promised to keep quiet and then didn’t, they lose the right to privacy and can suffer the consequence of loose lips.
After Sources post, I hope Sundance did the right thing and shared the email with all of you either here at this blog (as he seems to like to keep his readers in the dark) or he may disclose it at his blog and explain himself to everyone (that would be really great!) Has he explained yet why he invoked Ken’s name into the email scam?
For those just checking in, I’m off for a few days for medical reasons and I’ve set this thread to post automatically at midnight. Giving 24 hours for Sundance to bring the email forward. As he was the one who received it and he is the one who talked about it on this blog, I wanted to provide him a chance to do the right thing.
In case he didn’t share it, here is the email as I received it on Feb. 22nd.
To: Diwataman, Chip Bennett, Annette Kelly
Picture of Last Refuge
This is being shared with you because you are smart, in tune, and influential to other site readers. Under NO circumstances can it be discussed, shared or forwarded.
I have done a massive amount of boots on the ground investigation of this case. I have travelled to Orlando, Lake Mary, Sanford et al, and one thing rings consistent in every single conversation. Mark O’Mara cannot be trusted. He is part of the “machine”.
O’Mara runs with Mark Nejame, Greg Francis, John Morgan, Charlie Crist, et al. They are his circle of influence – and each has a vested interest in his case with George Zimmerman.
Two specifics beyond refute.
#1) O’Mara lied to the court during the bond hearing about the GZ Pay-Pal account. He knew with specific detail about the account and he actually *instructed* George and Shellie not to put it on their financial affidavit, an affidavit “he filed with the court”.
There is evidence, physical evidence, to back this up. AND more alarmingly Angela Corey is in custody of this evidence which shows O’Mara AT THE JAIL, audio and video, of him talking to GZ about it.
Blackmail material???? – think about it. How would an unscrupulous, and politically motivated, prosecutor use this information?
(*Note, the state Bar also opened an investigation into O’Mara about the finances in this case – the investigation is still “pending” …. O’Mara has filed responses seeking to avoid the inquiry – does that help to clear up his hesitance about filing indigency?)
#2) O’Mara had custody of George Zimmerman’s passport from day ONE. In his briefcase, and he forgot to tell the court. He forgot. For over a month he forgot….. until the prosecution used it to advance the demand for custody restrictions. Again, THINK ABOUT IT.
What follows below is a series of background information which is FYI ONLY. An E-Mail rec’d from a person who knows what I just outlined above, yet they do not know my full awareness. (I am also protecting their identity).
——————————– Rec’d Correspondance Below ————————
OMG, Sundance, thank you for writing me back, really. Since I have your vote of confidentiality, I wanna tell you some things.
First, I called George again yesterday, and he briefly told me that O’Mara doesn’t want him talking to me.
Please dear God, I hope everything is okay, but maybe I should not say anything anymore. I too am not allowed to talk to anyone, technically, I had to sign some sort of life long contract promising to never say anything about George, including posting on blogs. Basically, every other citizen can say what they like, but I lost my rights as a citizen because I am George’s XXXXXXXXXXX
What a load of crock. And he cuts me off when he has been using my writings, my research, my analysis, and the letters that have helped the case. In fact, in every hearing, he has used my arguments and research, bringing no idea of his own, which really makes me wonder what his law school education was all about.
I am George’s XXXXXXXXXXXXX, I am not getting paid, I am not getting credit or anything, but every time he senses I am influencing George against him, and I don’t know how he knows this but he cuts me off right when I am getting through. He’s done it before. And sadly, its been at George’s lowest times, when he needed my support and influence.
(BTW, your blog and threads have been the key to most of my research and ideas. The writers here have provided the words that formed my letters that O’Mara and West have found so impressive and used in the case. But, I digress.)
You remember back in July when you were talking about the financial manipulation. You were totally on target! Although, a little quick in getting rid of Treepers, if they were O’Mara supporters. I wish we could’ve retained and converted a few of them. lol!
Soon, as George was out of jail and free to talk we talked, a lot. I told him to go on Hannity, which he did, but I wish he had been a little more real than Yes Sir, No Sir, God told me to do it Sir; I wish he had said “Look America, I am getting screwed, this could happen to you, I apologized already and they ridiculed me, etc. etc.”
Anyway, I told him about the financial manipulation and George agreed.
O’Mara screwed him on the bail bond issue. George said there was no way he could stay in, not one more minute, so he made O’Mara do whatever was needed, and in the process O’Mara pulled a few fast ones, as XXXXXXXXXXXXX talked about on those threads. (BTW XXXXXXXXXXXX posts on those threads were very helpful for laypeople like me to follow.)
George set me out to find him another Funds Administrator. I talked to several CPA’s and Lawyers, cause in Florida they can be either. But I ran into some strange responses when I talked to Lawyers in Orlando. Very curious, crazy ass responses when O’Mara’s name came up.
One lawyer, her name XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX maybe in my notes somewhere, told me that she had been given a reference by Lester when she applied to be a Judge in Seminole, because she had done some work for one of Lester’s family members. Anyway, she said she did not want anything to do with O’Mara, but she might think about it after speaking to George. I tried to get her to tell me why O’Mara was an issue.
XXXXXXXXXXXXX said that O’Mara and her had worked together XXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXX and she caught him red handed in a lie. She confronted him, he acknowledged and apologized and told her it would never happen again. (SURE! As though dishonesty is a remedial condition in anyone!)
XXXXXXXXXX said that his lie caused her problems, but he tried to make amends to her and she decided to let it go, which is why she does not wish to talk about the details. But she vowed never to work with him again.)
Another very well known, reputable attorney called me back and we were having a fairly professional conversation, until O’Mara’s name came up.
All of a sudden this really sober old dog with his own firm begins talking to me like I am a fishwife, and shouting that he would have to undo and redo the entire fund to his satisfaction, make sure everything complied with government, bar, state regulations and is okayed by judge and blah blah blah. He was acting like my very proposal to him was a disgrace to his reputation in Orlando as an honest attorney and also that he is immensely high priced but the best.
There were a couple of others who went crazy too, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX thinking like they were being asked to do something unethical. I am not sure why O’Mara’s name was sending a tsunami through the Orlando lawyers I called. I thought it might be because of the race issue and death threats for anyone to do with the case, until you kept talking about his dishonesty and then I began putting it together.
In any event, I tried to call back George to give him the information, and he kept saying he was busy, he was busy. And then he changed his number, and his email. I figured he was giving me the heave ho, so I don’t know if I threw out all the notes I collected. I hope I saved some of the links if you wanna do something with it.
But keep me out of it, I don’t like the politics O’Mara plays with.
He may have all the form of charm and airs of sophistication that George likes, but its gold ring on a pig’s snout!
George called me several weeks later and told me that O’Mara was concerned because XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX was put up on the Treehouse and he knew the origination of that article.
But he told George that if I was XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX at the Treehouse also, I could possibly say things I ought not to say. (George must be protected from being influenced by Anti-O’Mara Treepers, me thinks.)
That’s when I got XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX. Felt so bad that a lot of people were asking about me and I simply disappeared.
But I am glad they kept asking for a bit, so O’Mara people and George would know I was not posting there anymore. George’s family noticed right away because of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX (I am glad Treepers are continuing that tradition.)
George’s XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX reads the posts, as XXXXXX said recently.
I am surprised, because he told me that he was getting tired and sleeping a lot. I told him to stay away from emotional things, which drain the energy, and raise pressure. He is a heart patient, and his idea of simply making it till XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX gets through this, is sad, kinda. I hope he plans to live longer than that, so I don’t wanna tell him drastic things like, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX is screwed if he sticks with O’Mara, which is what I think also, but …
He had tried helping George in the beginning, when he realized the XXXXXXXX were not helping XXXXX XXXXX XXXX. Dad got those two attorneys for George, and then George listened to another friend who said they were no good. I think dad would help, if George would listen. They don’t visit each other, and I don’t know how much that is influenced by Pastor Jim Jones.
Dad was supportive of George’s black co worker and George’s brother being out and about in the world, trying to straighten things out, but Pastor Jones disapproves and wants total control.
I was surprised when George told me that he had sent my gift to his mother, at Christmas, through XXXX I expected Gladys to be there and open it in front of him.
Although, the package was picked up after Christmas, yet, it sounds like they don’t visit or talk much. I try not to ask too much on the personal side. I simply listen and notice things. Shellie is not much of an influence on George, but I think she is XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX , if George doesn’t. She XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXX, so that’s good.
Some of George’s family and friends post at the Treehouse, and George knows each of their user names; he began telling me once, but I figured the less I know the better.
I know his mother in law posts, his brother sometimes, brother in law, maybe sister, cousins, acquaintances and a few friends.
He did tell me to keep an eye on XXXXXXXXXXXXX who also posts as XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX; this person could post George and Shellie’s physical location, recklessly, not intentionally. I was glad when the person was banned in December, but I think they are posting again.
I hope O’Mara doesn’t bother me. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX I don’t think I have done anything wrong. I might have stated an opinion that didn’t agree with him. But otherwise I have followed all the rules as I was told to do.
I hope George realizes that I cannot follow rules I don’t know about.
And anyway, instead of being so anal on inconsequential petty matters, his lawyers need to be busy doing what they ought to be doing. I think O’Mara is looking for ways out, or ways to skate through this debacle somehow.
Wouldn’t you like to hear what those Orlando attorneys are thinking and saying about how O’Mara is doing, if they indeed know his character?
Thank you for listening and keeping it all confidential, Sundance. You are the best in the blog business!
From: “email@example.com” <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:44 PM
Subject: RE: Confidential for Sundance
I’ve got your six. Don’t worry…. I’m going to stay on top of O’Mara. There’s more there than I have even written openly.
George is in big trouble if he sticks with Mark O’Mara. I have been witness to that since the first bond hearing when the entire fiasco with the Pay Pal accounts and financial affidavit came up.
I thought everyone in the family was on board with the O’Mara love. But it sounds like Dad might not be from what you have shared.
Keep the faith, and if possible to influence his Mom or Dad, DO IT.
All the best to you and your family. Hold faith in a loving God.
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Redacted XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:32am
To: “email@example.com” <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Confidential for Sundance
I was reading one of your blog threads on George, after all, and found it both curious and coincidental that you had a link for Jonestown in there.
Curious and coincidental because I found out yesterday that O’Mara has forbidden George to associate with me. Isolating him from friends and family like he’s a child. He goes along to meetings with George’s pastor also. We are deep in the jungles of Guyana for sure.
Also, I understand XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX redacted by SD XXXXXXXXXX. Symbolically what happened.
For so much fear and control to be happening, something big is going to go down. Keep up with the sunlight Sundance. Don’t give up. You have always been George’s guardian angel with the blog threads and exposing the truth.
PS. I am going to keep XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX with Shellie at least
Some of you may pick up that the team shopped for a new fund-manager in July of 2012. What a coincidence that the sender talked to Orlando laywers in July, Sundance talked to Orlando lawyers in July and both developed an interest to start talking about it in late February 2013. Wow!
If Sundance chose not to post this, I can see him arguing with you guys and you have one arm tied behind your back because you haven’t seen it. Well now we are all on the same playing field as it should have been way back in February. Who is Sundance to ask me to manipulate you guys?
Let me remind you of the timeline. Sundance has been pretty good about staying away from the O’Mara subject and we were all happily going along sharing information that we hoped helped the defense win an acquittal. Then on Feb. 20th, Sundance got that email. He decided to share it with 3 of us on Feb. 22nd at 8:21pm and on Feb. 23rd he could hold back no more. He posted the O’Mara thread. I responded at 9:38am that I didn’t think us attacking the lawyer was a good move. That turned out to be the post that got me banned. Now that you know what the email contents were and with whom they were shared, its interesting to read the thread again. Diwataman and Chip didn’t get banned but their comments weren’t the same as mine. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/02/23/never-allow-anything-to-compromise-your-integrity-george-zimmerman-is-learning-the-consequences-and-it-wasnt-even-his-creation/
The email I received about why my post was trashed was quick and read as follows:
Sent: February-23-13 9:56:25 AM
To: Annette Kelly (email@example.com)
Obviously I made a big mistake in corresponding to you – Lesson learned.
However, obviously from the comment you posted you just don’t “get it”, and it appears this is an intentional decision on your part.
I take exception to the tone and disparagement aimed specifically toward me, in my house, within the comment, and have deleted it from view. You show a keen disconnect from grace or mannerly behavior.
Farewell and following seas.
The TRUTH Has NO Agenda.
but, but, but,…..what about me being smart and influential? 😀
Sundance rethought that and allowed the post to be viewed and riddled with his response. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/02/23/never-allow-anything-to-compromise-your-integrity-george-zimmerman-is-learning-the-consequences-and-it-wasnt-even-his-creation/#comment-327842 You can read it for yourself and decide what it tells you.
It’s clear, this email is why we were exposed to more Mr. O’Mara bashing at the treehouse in February. You will note in the email Sundance sent to the writer, he thinks “Dad” is ok with O’Mara. That was on February 20th and as you witness in the post on the sources thread, on March 25th he is actually arguing online with Mr. Zimmerman about whether he was silenced or not by Mr. O’Mara and whether he (Mr. Zimmerman) had grave troubles with it.
Did some of the Zimmermans have criticisms? Of course they did. I’m one of Mr. O’Mara’s biggest fans and I had some criticisms as well.
To whoever wrote this email, I ask that you come forward and explain to us why it suddenly dawns on you in Feb. that all the Orlando lawyers think Mr. O’Mara is untrustworthy that you talked to in July. Why didn’t it dawn on you when you actually had those conversations? You tell Sundance that the very day before you wrote this email that George told you he couldn’t talk with you no more on the advice of Mr. O’Mara. Is that why you lashed out against Mr. O’Mara? Did you like talking with George? Did you know George before the shooting or did you become acquainted after the shooting?
As I said, when I got this email I thought it largely garbage because the person says right in it, yesterday I got news I can’t talk with George no more so now I know what those lawyers meant in July. What is curious is all the references Sundance makes after this date about his 3 day weekend trip to Orlando and talks to clerks and lawyers. How many of them are at their offices on weekends?
I thought if this was valid at all, perhaps Ken and George had a parting of the ways and I only thought Ken because of the reference to sourcing a new fund manager. Why did Sundance specifically mention Ken and this email in August here on this blog? Did Sundance think the writer was Ken? Re-reading it here for the 2nd time, it’s crazy that the writer is believed to have been a family member. This is looney-tunes. The writer thinks everything coming out of O’Mara’s mouth in court is their work!
Due to the timing of Sundance’s posts in February in relation to getting this writing, he has absolutely taken these ravings as solid evidence of what he has already suspected. Sundance, if this is a crazed fan of George’s they could have written all this stuff based on what you posted last July and sent so many away from your blog.
I think Sundance got played. What do you think?