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Open Thread – Mar. 25/14

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What’s going on with you these days?


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  1. Wow. I read the rest of the last Open Thread. I have to say, to someone who doesn’t go to Twitter, IMO, it all just looks juvenile, low-class, vindictive, and a total waste of time – a total soap opera. I repeat – IMO, it’s nothing but a soap opera.

    And it takes two to tango. If someone keeps going there and engaging, then they’re choosing to wallow in that filth. Why the choice to engage? What’s the attraction in arguing with total strangers, in swearing at people, in trying to out people, in trying to figure out whose sister is who, which screen name really made this or that twitter account, etc? It’s totally meaningless, it all just “exists” because people choose to engage. There’s a beautiful world out there, why choose to jump into and help maintain the cesspool?

    I must confess, I totally don’t get it. I don’t even like reading it – what a waste of time.

    Sorry, just jmho.

    • …. and just to add, from what I’ve seen posted here, it’s not even arguments about an issue – it’s just all interpersonal nastiness, speculation, and gossip – it’s not “real”, rather it all just “exists” because people choose to go there and fling insults at each other.

      Yeah, sorry, but I just don’t get the attraction.

      • The sniping has been going on for a long time but it went to another level the past few days when children’s pictures got posted.

        Then the people on the sidelines all stepped in with their thoughts on that. It ended up coming here as I posted my thoughts on it and asked everyone on twitter to rethink their goals. That lead to a discussion here.

        Everything should return to normal tomorrow. I hope.

  2. On the battlefield all alone is poor Mr. Hood. I dedicate this song to him and his sister.



    Near as I can tell, Hood has ticked off TM and GZ supporters and lots of parody accounts have sprung up. It looks like at least 2 of them are made by TM supporters. It’s not just one or two people going after them. This brother and sister has managed to anger everyone. Posting kids will tend to do that to people and contacting businesses and harassing people will garner you unwanted attention as well. But of course, they will blame everyone else for their troubles.

    • Officially insane.. That got me so tickled, Dave, I cannot stop laughing. Yes, she is. I think she has her facts just a bit backwards.

    • I don’t think people think George is a hero for what happened, I think (JMO ) it’s that after all he has been through and all the people who where against him he is still standing that people respect. No one takes pleasure in the fact a young life was lost but we all know when push comes to shove we will do what it takes to live , that is what people can relate to.

      • This is just another example of MSM exploiting this situation…. this time to make it sound like people think something that they do not think. Realistically, why would anyone think that George is a hero unless it’s because he refused to take a plea deal? If there are any heroes in this saga, it’s those who stood up to the BGI and our crooked judicial system.

        And here I thought we were going to have one day of rest without George being in the media. Silly me. I am wondering how much more blood can MSM get out of this overcooked turnip?

      • I totally agree Sha. George just defended his life. There is nothing heroic about doing that. If someone is trying to kill you, you either do it or you don’t survive. I believe that he was telling the truth when he said that Trayvon saw the gun and said he would die.

        I admire him because he had kept his faith in God and has not shown hate to all those who show hate to him.

        • I think he doesn’t show hate because he himself hates what happened but knows in his heart he did what he had to do. A cold hearted person would have never been affected by what happened the way he has. I can’t understand people who hate a man and his family when they have never meet them and know nothing about them.

    • I haven’t heard from him in a long while. Last time he told us he was recovering from a health issue.

      He tweets. He retweeted a few things today. His last written tweet is here

        • I emailed him about accessing the War Room so he could be reading.

          I have a feeling that since the trial, he’s lost interest in the case and his tweets indicate his focus is on politics now. I could be wrong.

          • I would not expect him to comment on mos of the “garbage” that has arisen since “the case.” That does not mean I do not respect those here who do because I do. I follow because I had hoped the aftermath would be beneficial to America and the real crooks would face justice but I have, thus far, been totally wrong.

            I am having a difficult time finding any substantial good that has resulted. In fact, I think race relations are at their low point and so is our faith in the judicial system. What am I missing?

      • I did that already but thanks for the suggestion..

        One thought on “A Righteous Path”

        jordan2222 on March 1, 2014 at 22:17 said:

        Hello, Bori:

        I heard you had some medical issues. Are you OK?


    • I haven’t researched it a great deal, but I got the impression “common core” essentially worked out to be “least common denominator” in terms of education.

      • Thanks. I just hope the objections to common core is not simply the latest incantation of Evangelicals objecting that their kids are not being taught the earth is 6,000 years old in the science classroom.

      • I just commented to my daughter that I am glad her kids are in Catholic school so that they aren’t affected by Common Core and she told me that Catholic schools are using Common Core. It’s a different method of learning. She said they do it because sometimes children transfer from public school to Catholic school and if the Catholic schools are learning with different methods, it would create problems.

        • Common Core does not mean what either right wing or teacher union says, Common Core testing by design will increase critical thinking skills and ensure kids fully understand concepts rather than just reguritate rote learning. Folks should investigate issue rather than repeat disinformation.

          Common Core testing will expose bad teachers and IQ differences forcing districts to address teacher evaluation and training and differentiate instruction.

          Common Core brings back the use of regular assessments such as weekly quizzes to ensure students are learning the material before moving on to the next concept.

          Common Core will simply Math curriculum focusing on teaching theory as well as execution, the result will be improved comprehension.

          • Common Core Math curriculum uses a great deal of “estimation” processes, which is intended to increase critical thinking skills, which is a great goal if their methods actually worked. Problem is, they don’t. While students spend time using confusing processes to reach imprecise answers, they spend less time on mastering the simple skills of addition, subtraction, division and multiplication. The end result is a student who can’t consistently perform simple arithmetic or arrive at correct answers in a reasonable amount of time, but receives passing grades based on the willingness to do the work in the manner taught. To them, accuracy is secondary.to understanding. But how does the mastery of convoluted processes that result in imprecise answers equate to understanding, or improved critical thinking skills. Quite simply, it doesn’t.

            • Not sure what you are referring to because there is NO common core curriculum. There is a set of standards to be taught, how those standards are taught is up to the teacher and school district.
              Your criticism of common core does not match the facts.

              Contrary to your assertion Common Core testing in rigorous and focusing on developing students thinking not just regurgitating facts.

              • So, you’re saying that there is no (zero) required content, and that everything is left to the local (or state) educators? How, then, do you explain this excerpt, taken directly from the corestandards.org website:

                “The standards recognize that both content and skills are important.

                The English language arts standards require certain critical content for all students, including classic myths and stories from around the world, America’s founding documents, foundational American literature, and Shakespeare. ”

                While I will agree that doesn’t constitute the creation of a complete curriculum, it certainly does establish the fact that Common Core does make some materials mandatory, contrary to your claim that:

                “There is a set of standards to be taught, how those standards are taught is up to the teacher and school district.”

                • State have always set the standards, think NCLB, Common Core is the natural progression of unifying core standards and testing methods across the state. How teachers teach is NOT mandated.

                  • Well, i see you avoided my question about “required content” but that’s OK, even though required content actually dictates what is taught in class and by correlation often determines how it is taught. But, since you seem intent on shifting the discussion to NCLB let’s “think about” that, as you suggested.

                    NCLB was signed into law in 2001 as a reauthorization (with additions) of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 (which had, itself, been reauthorized in 1994.

                    ESEA was written as the federal flagship aid program for disadvantaged students. The intention was to close education gaps between various groups,and to improve overall performance in every group. NCLB was built on that foundation, with the same general goals.

                    But, by every account, the results have been the exact opposite. While standardized testing was used to ever increasing degrees, the data returned indicated that not only were educational gaps between various groups not narrowed, but that according to their own measurements, overall performance fell as well. If anything can be said about NCLB, it is that the continued (and growing) intrusion by the federal government into the educational systems of the various states has had the direct opposite effect of what it originally intended to achieve.

                    And THIS is the foundation for the “natural progression” you want to build on?

                • The excerpt you chose absolutely matches my assertion. Mandates state standards nationally, does not dictate what curriculum is chosen to cover those basic requirements leading a student to career and college preparedness.

                  • LOL Excuse me while I compose myself after reading your intentional misdirection. YOU said CC only consisted of standards, and implied there was no requirement for specific material. I just quoted directly from the corestandards.org website and showed that was not true.

                    Spin it any way you wish, but from what I know of the people here, they can see past the use of buzzwords and clever phrases to understand what was said.

                    • wow, now that kind of personal is just not necessary nor does it sound sincere to me.
                      I was not using any terms differently than you did nor did I try to spin anything, we have a different perspective and you seem intent on belittling me.

            • My granddaughter has Common Core at her Catholic school. My daughter said it’s designed to increase literacy. In science, there’s less hands on and more reading. Under the old curriculum, children would learn about butterflies by watching a caterpillar spin a cocoon, then turn into a butterfly and finally releasing the butterfly. Under Common Core the children would read 3 pages about butterflies.

              Education constantly experiments on children. Whole Language was supposed to revolutionize learning to read. It was a disaster. Now, the trend is going back to phonics.

          • People keep thinking that more testing is going to hold teachers accountable and make sure children learn. We already have so much testing that it interferes with learning. After No Child Left Behind, teachers started teaching to the test. In many ways that lowered the quality of education. Before those tests, children were given achievement tests, but those tests didn’t disrupt education as much as No Child Left Behind.

            • “After No Child Left Behind, teachers started teaching to the test.”

              While that’s true, I might add that this is something that bad teachers did even before NCLB. But, not only do we see currently see vast amounts of time being spent on actual testing, but even more time being spent on “practice tests.” In one article i read, it was said that some districts spent a total of 34 out of 185 days on standardized testing alone. And this was in addition to regular classroom testing and quizzes. Now, I’m all for measurements to establish whether learning is actually occurring, but this seems a bit excessive, don’t you agree? Does this sound like a program intended to promote learning, or one designed to test teacher performance? While those two things are inextricably linked, that doesn’t mean that they are one in the same, or that there aren’t other methods that can be used to “grade the teachers” without taking so much classroom learning time away from students.

              Not only is over-testing a problem but, as recent scandals have revealed, there appears to be an element of complete fraud being perpetrated in certain school districts. Atlanta and Philadelphia have both experienced this on a massive scale, and I suspect there are other districts in which this occurs to one degree or another. THAT is a measure of the school district’s ability to maintain educational integrity, and a strong indication that there is a need for greater oversight of the administrators, themselves.

            • The assessements will make the testing I took in Catholic school in the 1960, weekly quizzes, mid-terms, exams and annual standardized test.

              It is just a lame excuse to suggest teachers are just teaching to the test, if you are covering the standards a teacher can be as creative with enhanced and differentiated instruction techniques as they would like to be.

              Common Core will clarify what testing assist with student assessments.

              The anti-testing rhetoric is tiresome IMO, there is simply no better method to ensure learning is happening than with regular feedback to the student.

              I am not interested in arguing with anti-Obama conservatives about Common Core, I defended Bush’s NCLB against liberals misinformation understanding the important aspects NCLB address in education nationally.

              NCLB provided the missing teeth to correct for district oversight particularly in the area of parental and students rights. NCLB led the data driven revolution, Common Core has the potential to refine the use of assessments for prompt intervention for student achievement.

            • I should add that my husband is a senior data analyst in a large urban district and I can assure you that data does provide a principal with actionable and fair information to evaluate teacher performance.

    • David, I haven’t read Sundance on this, but I can tell you this, its effed up! My grandson is in 3rd grade. They don’t learn to borrow in subtraction or other crazy stuff. I cant even begin to try to explain. As my dtr says its a good thing he gets it, because we would have to hire a tutor, its crazy messed up!

      • Mimi, I have gone through this same thing with my own Grandson. I review his homework with him on a daily basis, and what I see is shocking. Not only are the lessons set on a snail’s pace that don’t provide enough challenge for a developing mind, but they concentrate on things like “making the best estimate” and rounding, as a way to teach the kids to decide what range their answers should fall in.

        That’s all well and good, but the kids don’t really understand that the estimation process is secondary to being able to use arithmetic to arrive at a precise answer. Not to mention that any math problem can be “checked” by using the answer to reverse engineer the problem to arrive at the starting numbers.(A process that not only checks the answer but also provides other insights into how arithmetic works).

        And, like you say, they are also taught very lengthy processes that include unnecessary steps to avoid teaching them the more traditional (and perfectly acceptable) practices, such as “borrowing” in subtraction.

        And that’s just the mathematics. There are similar problems with the language curriculum, as well. While some lessons do seem to increase vocabulary and teach the elements of grammar quite well, little emphasis is put on basics such as spelling, penmanship, and pronunciation. Maybe in the days of “spell check” and computer printed homework that is never read aloud this is all irrelevant, but I honestly believe those basic skills aren’t important even today. Do you?

        Then, take a good look at the “materials” used in the Common Core programs. Rather than having traditional textbooks that are handled with care and passed to other students in subsequent years, students are given “workbooks” in which they write their answers to “fill in the blank” questions, or Math problems that provide space for kids to “show their work”. And there’s nothing wrong with that, per se, except that there are no real textbooks (at the elementary level, at least) and these workbooks leave with the student at the end of the year. This means the school system has to purchase all new workbooks every year. That’s a pretty good revenue stream for the publishers of those workbooks, wouldn’t you say?

        And then there are the standardized tests that accompany Common Core. Don’t get me wrong, standardization can be a very good thing. For one thing, it can aid in ferreting out incompetent teachers, and entire school systems that simply aren’t providing adequate educations to entire groups of individuals. But, standardized testing can only measure that which is part of the program. What if the program, itself, is defective, and the standards being met are incredibly low to begin with?

        Which brings us to the final question of who actually designed the program, and set the standards. In every piece of literature about Common Core we’re told that this was a program called for by state educators from across America, who participated in its creation. But the facts don’t seem to bear that out. The reality is, the Common Core program was not created at the behest of state or local educators, but was created at the federal level in response to criticism that the “No Child Left Behind” initiative was a measurably miserable failure. The various state education departments had zero input into the determination of what the Common Core standards should be, or how those standards should be met. Nor did the states clamor for its implementation. What actually happened was that the state governments were told that if they didn’t implement Common Core, they would not receive any federal funding for education. Now, in today’s economy, where many municipalities and states are struggling with smaller budgets that resulted from declining revenues, what choice did any of them have? They simply had no choice other than to implement Common Core on a statewide basis (which effected every local school district, as well) or face telling their constituents that they would have to raise taxes or close schools. And they did it, using the “We’ll have to implement this to find out what’s in it” methodology. Sound familiar?

        Now, all will be fine, if Common Core actually turns out better, brighter, and more capable students. But we won’t know that for quite a while, until an entire crop of students have completed the program from start to finish. So, amid the concerns of parents who are seeing the frustration of their students,and experiencing it first hand like I have, is it prudent to simply “wait and see” to determine if another national program is failing? Maybe not. We have another group of professionals who are involved first hand with Common Core on a day to day basis: Our teachers. So what do they have to say about Common Core? From what I’ve seen, the feedback isn’t good, and it’s getting worse every day. Not only are many educators panning Common Core as being questionable in its design and goals, but they also say the redundant testing required to measure its performance is detracting from their classroom time with students, which further reduces the effectiveness of an already flawed program.

        And finally, let’s talk about one other thing. Just recently Susan Kimball, a Missouri teacher was called to testify before the Missouri Senate Education Committee about her experiences with school administrators.

        Give it a watch, and then ask yourself one question:

        If Common Core is such a great program, why are administrators intimidating and retaliating against teachers who have expressed their concerns?

        • I am trying to avoid offending but seriously a frustrated teacher who does more whining than providing meaningful criticism did not persuade me of her concerns. She even acknowledged her school has not provided staff development sufficient to prepare her and ease her anxiety. Honestly she reminded me of many close minded and not to bright elementary teachers I have known, she never mention any of her own or other teachers efforts to understand or improve their ability to use the state curriculum provided her. Sounded more like the usual resistance for people unwilling to accept any changes.

          • I can agree that she does make complaints that her school administration has not provided sufficient staff development, and that this would be a valid criticism of the administration, rather than of CC, itself. But that does not explain why the administration had threatened her with possible termination if she persisted with her support for legislation to have common core standards removed from her state.

            And, while she certainly does seem to be expressing resistance. it does not mean that she is unwilling to accept ANY changes, as you so eloquently suggest. Perhaps she is perfectly willing to accept change, but has good reason to resist this particular change?

            Also, you seem to be missing the reason her particular testimony was provided. It was not meant to be a documentation of specific criticisms of Common Core, itself (they exist from other sources) but was included as an indicator that those criticisms ARE being repressed. Could it be that there are more problems with Common Core,and its implementation, than we are hearing about? This testimony certainly indicates that distinct possibility.

            But, one last question for you, personally, Cassandra. You seem to be very supportive of Common Core initiative, and well versed in the rhetoric surrounding the controversy. And that’s perfectly fine. For my own curiosity, I have to ask, what motivates you to be so outspoken in favor of this program? Are you an educator, school administrator, or parent of a school aged child? (forgive me if I’m being too personal here. If you are not comfortable answering those questions out of privacy concerns, I will respect your desire for privacy and not read anything into it)

            • see prior comment, my husband is a very capable data analyst in a large urban school district who provides both state and federal mandated reporting as well as very specific analysis for principal use to improve instruction and evaluate teaching and student achievement. My best friend is a highly experience libraiy media technology teacher working in one of California highest rated school district despite being funded as a rural district which equates to less per pupil funding. She is the resource specialist for teachers in preparing curriculum to support differential instruction. Talking about education is a constant in my circles. I was a parent advocate for many years for our PTA district-wide, I provided parents frustrated with the system poor response to their concerns with advice on ensuring their rights were honored.

              My kids were NOT high achieving kids and in many ways failed by public education. Both are in graduate school doing serious work in science and math. Neither felt prepared for college due to poor instruction particularly favor of the month and teacher whim. Around 1993 as a parent I realized why California schools had dropped from such highly successful programs to failing, it was largely due to the large of a coherent aligned curriculum with consistent assessment. The nation experimented with education for the last two decades or more, I view Common Core as a stabilizing influence.

              In the larger context of school reform I would like school boards and local control of schools be disbanded. I believe education should be administered statewide with statewide teacher unions.

              No question is too personal IMHO, even money.

            • Oh, I should add, as a parent I was forced to use home school instruction more than once due to my sons being unsafe in school, serious stuff. So I spent several years in both middle and high school with kids doing self instruction, so I know what it takes to use assessment to determine gaps in student comprehension and find curriculum to fill those gaps. This is exactly what my BF does for classroom teachers, she provides mulitple sources and media for students use to enhance and expand their abilities. She is particularly excited about the writing requirements coming with CC testing, it will be hard for the first years but students will adapt and become much better educated in her opinion, they will have to provide evidence for their opinions not just write essays but write to defend their positions and why. Hearing about CC from her and she is in a position to implement much of the technology required to support the program makes me want to be back in middle school being seriously challenged, not bored.

              • Thank you for your detailed and candid reply. Judging from what you have said, it seems that you do have first hand experience with some particular failures of the public school system, and knowledge of this issue, as well as direct contact with other sources with personal experience with the implementation of Common Core. That surpasses my own small personal (and frustrating) experiences with one single school.

                My interest in the subject began while I reviewed homework with just one student (my grandson) and looked at the materials he had been provided. While my opinions are based from that limited viewpoint, and are colored by my non-professional perception of the material, I see similar concerns expressed by parents and educators from different parts of the country. While I’m certain that the examples provided by others were “cherry picked” to demonstrate the most extreme circumstances, what I found alarming was the degree of similarity to what I had experienced locally. And, yes, I recognize that some (but not all) of their complaints stem from political ideology.

                Perhaps my own experiences colored my perception of CC as a whole, but I’m not convinced that those objections are invalid, or that they do not indicate problems with CC itself, or systemic problems with the implementation of CC. Although I am compelled to add that I find your arguments to be somewhat reassuring, based on your personal degree of involvement.

                One thing you said earlier gave me pause. You briefly mentioned complaints by teachers’ unions, but went into no detail about the nature of their complaints. I don’t want to make any assumptions here. While I believe that teachers, themselves, could be an excellent source for feedback about the nature of CC, and provide firsthand evidence (one way or the other) about it’s actual effect on the learning process, I also recognize that teachers’ unions (in some, if not all, districts) serve only to protect teachers, rather than to advocate on behalf of the students. For that reason I take statements made on behalf of the unions with a grain of salt and look, instead, for comments made by individual teachers. The same goes for school administrations, since they, too, have motivations that sometimes place them at odds with the needs of their students. But what I’m finding while I research this topic is that very few individuals are speaking in favor of CC, while many appear to be expressing their personal concerns. Am I overlooking the positive reviews, and seeing only the negative? Perhaps you can direct me to educational professionals who speak their personal (but informed) opinions, and from their personal (and direct) experiences?

                  • Thanks for the link, but I was looking more for specific comments from individual educators rather than a rehashing of the politics behind the controversy offered by an editorial board of a newspaper that (at least) one independent study showed leans distinctly to the left.

                    • http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/31/a-common-core-standards-defense/

                      Hirsch E. D. Hirsch, Jr. is the founder of the Core Knowledge Foundation and professor emeritus of education and humanities at the University of Virginia. He is the author of several acclaimed books on education issues including the best-seller Cultural Literacy. With his subsequent books The Schools We Need and Why We Don’t Have Them, The Knowledge Deficit, and The Making of Americans, Dr. Hirsch solidified his reputation as one of the most influential education reformers of our time.

                      the LA Times article did not read partisan and it contained an example of how the math standard improve alignment and it also displayed the myth that the standards come from the Obama Administration. Any internet search can take you to article written by educators, you do realize it was university professors who develop the standards. I also provided the Brookings Institute, if you want to read conservative support for CCSS, just search for it, several republicans governors strongly support adoption.
                      CCSS are NOT a product of the left wing or Obama.

                • Justice, I’m a retired teacher, I raised 2 children, and I’m involved in my grandchildren’s education. What I’ve found over the years is that every few years, education researchers come up with something new. Teachers are presented with completely new buzz words and new paper work. It totally disrupts the system, but there’s people who make their living doing that and they have to justify their jobs. We have new buzz words, different paper work, new red tape and chaos in the schools until the teachers figure out how to teach in spite of it. About the time that happens, the same people have to justify their jobs again, so they create different buzz words, different forms, different tests, and different things that are stressed. It will never end as long as there are people whose jobs depend on coming up with something new.

                  • the CCSS are NOT new, they represent the best of the state standards states were already using, i.e standards adopted by . Massasschutes informed the CCSS.

                    CCSS is not a flavor of the month experimental educational program.

                    I think you are misusing the notion of buzz word, adopting common standards has nothing to do with grant writing using eduspeak buzz words or the hiring of consultants.

              • PS: Since there was no room to reply to one of your responses above, I will do it here. You’re right. My reply to you was “over the top” and I sincerely apologize. My reaction to your comment did take it to a “personal level” and that was both unfair, and inappropriate. While we certainly do disagree about what the quote from the corestandards.org website actually says, I had no right to belittle you for having a different opinion about it. Again, I apologize.

                  • http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/12/here-is-the-conservative-defense-of-common-core/

                    “So with the Common Core its not just about raising the bar on these standards, it’s about raising the bar with the assessments to make sure we’re measuring high-quality learning, making sure that the students are graduating high school not just with a diploma but with the skills and knowledge they need to be productive, self-sufficient later in life,” he said.

                    The standards outline types of thinking and skills that students should master by certain grade levels. They also call for vigorous high-stakes testing to ensure that kids are actually learning the skills.

                    • “The standards outline types of thinking and skills that students should master by certain grade levels. ”

                      Could you be more specific about (exactly) what types of thinking the standards are pushing for, or refer me to specific literature that defines these “types of thinking” or particular “skills”? That quote from Daily Caller article is not followed by any description of those things, and only refers to them in passing.

                    • Could you be over thinking the issue, core standards is simply a set of goals in various subjects to be mastered every year which are aligned to be coherent year to year. you already know where to read the national standards. There is no national curriculum, state adopt curriculum.

                  • Thank you for your gracious acceptance of my apology.

                    I read the Brookings Institute article which you linked (thanks) but, again, it falls into the category of an argument that standards and testing are good things (something which nobody denies) but offers nothing in the fashion of personal endorsements by educators, and nothing specific about the standards themselves, who (specifically) authored them, or any direct reports on the degree to which they have been effective. Am I being premature by thinking that measurable results should be available at this time?

                    • Hirsch and the LA Times article discuss how the standards were developed.

                      I think the LA Times article you dismiss as leftist actually validated Tea Party reservations as well as other criticism and they discussed how states like California are quickly making adjustments as needed to address those problems in implementation.

                      I think you can find all the answers to your concerns on the internet.

                    • The Brooking report provides specific detailed recommendations on how to fix many of the implementation problems conservatives are complaining about. I suspect you did not read the report just the introduction piece.

        • OH YOU SPOKE THE TRUTH! From what I have seen so far. Mind you I have a 3rd grade grandson, and so I have heard a lot and read but didn’t realize til I saw first had few weeks ago!!! OMG My Dtr and son in law were talking about it. I didn’t understand, So they had my 8 yr old grandson come in and gave him a math prob like 1234+5678= Instead of simple addition with “carrying” NOPE… all these freaking “marks” rounding as you say. Or subtracting same way, no “borrowing” same thing all these freaking “marks” rounding… I was going to check it, and my daughter freaked out. DO NOT let him see you do that. Teacher said it confuses them. WTH?!! The answer was correct. but what could have been a 30 second problem, took about 45 sec or min! Dtr afraid he wont be able to balance a checkbook with out all the rounding! I haven’t had much first hands on the other subjects, other than it is above my pay grade! Thank God that Jacob has always been pretty smart or we would be in bad trouble. I don’t know what the kids do that don’t “get it” lol I don’t “get” how they are teaching. I know about 75 teachers. From fixing to retire to new. And they are in the majority of not liking it, but what to do? The newer were taught in their college courses.

          I could get on a soapbox on all the diff “schools” Magnet schools… charter… smh. And I know for a fact, happen to a girl who used to live next door. She was biracial. Her mom white, dad black. Mother had her enrolled in Magnet school as White. Dad got custody, when new school year came filled out as Black. Well the racial balance was met in Black, so the child could no longer attend! NOW, tell me this how is this suppose to be good? Same child, same school, but diff race, so cant attend. Now what is that telling this child. Who is or was in 6th grade at the time?

          But I agree with you comment on the CC above. And like I said, my daughter said, she is so thankful that Jacob understands. If not would have to hire a tutor because we are unable to help like he is taught. We confuse him lol and he confuses us. What about the kids that are having a problem?

          • Thanks for your reply. Obviously, I have a great deal of skepticism for CC, and for a variety of reasons. And yes, I had the exact same experience you mentioned in regards to math. As I’ve watched my grandson progress, I see him taking 2 to 3 times the amount of time necessary to arrive at a correct answer using the methods currently taught in school, compared to the amount of time it took for him to solve the same problems using the methods you and I learned in school (which I had previously taught him).

            And, like yourself, I had to face the reality that teaching him the methods I use was interfering with his learning the methods preferred by his teachers. So, sadly, I have dropped the “math drills” even though he had already mastered addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and had developed an understanding exponents, scientific notation, squares and square root, cubes and cube roots, and had an interest in basic geometry and conic sections by the 4th grade. Now, a year later, he’s relegated to estimating and rounding simple arithmetic problems in the fashion they are teaching,because if he doesn’t do it their way, his homework is marked as being wrong.

            Yeah, that’s a great system all right. But what do I know? Maybe they HAVE closed the educational gap between the average student and those who came from disadvantaged homes, so it’s OK, right? After all, the old methods only had me studying calculus and logic when I was in high school. If the CC advocates are right, and their methods are so much better, his entire graduating class would be considered “wunderkinds” by the standards of the generation that put a man on the moon using technology equivalent to that of today’s pocket calculator.

            • I AGREE! YOU GO!!!! So what I had understood this was suppose to be (lol ok what I got out of watching tv and media reports) was that if a kid went from your town to mine, they wouldn’t be behind everyone is learning the same at same time same way. Ok I can get that. BUT, lol how is that gonna help the kids if there is no one but the teachers that can help? And I tell you this, its not like it was when I was in school. I mean where a teacher had a lesson plan and taught or could leave stuff for a sub. Now there are IEP and those are Individual Educational Plans. There could be out of a class say 20 students, may be 5 or more IEP, which means those students have to have their work modified. So this is also extra teaching that a teacher must do. Who can help those students? It is not simple problem to answer. Yes there are good and bad teachers as there are good and bad in all walks of life. But I can tell you this, for what they are expected to do, they do not get paid enough. Period. They cant just teach. There are so many bombs that they have to avoid in the process of trying to just teach these students… no wonder they get frustrated and sidetracked or burnt out. And its just like the medical profession or any other I guess. So many people sued, that there has to be so many Warning and such. All that makes things cost more.

              Its a never ending cycle. The very reason there is a warning on anything is someone has sued and it is a cya or they were made to put it on label.

              No wonder people throw up hands or have ulcers lol

            • lol I remb when you got in trouble for trying to sneak a calculator into class. LOL I always thought, well if you know how to use a calculator then you know how to do the problem. Now kids are issued calculators as standard school supplies (or required one) WTH???? ROFL how are they going to use the calculator and rounding??? lol smh

    • I don’t know the first thing about Common Core, but if the goal is to teach kids ‘why’ math works and help them learn how to figure problems out for themselves rather than just throw formulas at them to memorize for the next test like we’ve done for ages… I kinda like the idea.

      I struggled badly with Algebra specifically because I didn’t know ‘why’ the formulas worked, they were just meaningless strings of numbers and letters on the page. I failed the class the first time around, barely passed the second time I took it, and dropped Algebra II altogether when it was obvious I was going to fail it, too.

      But I passed Geometry with flying colors… perfect scores… go figure.

      I have heard it said, though, that folks are often only good at the one or the other… a left brain / right brain thing.

      Getting back ’round to CC, though… if there is an alternate way to teach math that would make it more understandable to students like myself who didn’t/don’t get it, why is this a bad thing???

  3. So I was thinking about Trayvon’s three suspensions and when you actually do the math…. He was suspended for a lot long than anyone wants us to realize. Three ten day suspensions translates to 30 days. There are FIVE days in a school week, so that translates to trayvon being out of school on punishment for SIX WEEKS out of a semester and a quarter… yet the nuts want us to believe he was able to maintain a 4.0 and had a full ride scholarship to astronaut college. LMAO


  5. Bloom starts by claiming that Rachel Jeantel’s testimony provided the key piece of evidence; Rachel Jeantel heard Zimmerman attack Trayvon Martin. How? Rachel Jeantel says she heard a thump, and then “grass,” and “a little get-off, get-off.” Rachel Jeantel’s interpretation of what she heard, but did not see, is good enough for Lisa Bloom.

    Bloom also claims that Zimmerman’s gun was behind his back, so he couldn’t have gotten it; she calls this her second key piece of evidence. She claims Zimmerman said the gun was behind his back in multiple interviews. In his video walk through with Officer Christopher Serino, Zimmerman says that the gun was on his right hip, and he indicates that visually. Readers can see for themselves.

    She also claims that Zimmerman’s head was not banged against the concrete, because “the fight wasn’t on the concrete.” The photographs of Zimmerman’s skull would beg to differ with this assessment, as would the medical experts for the prosecution and the defense. Judging by where pieces of evidences such as keys were found, the fight started at the T and moved up, consistent with Zimmerman’s story.

    Her most explosive claim was that Trayvon Martin punched George Zimmerman in the face because Zimmerman approached him with a gun.­­Trayvon Martin was screaming his guts out, in her version, because a crazy man with a gun was threatening him. Huh? Doesn’t that contradict what she said earlier? Never mind, I’m sure she clears all this up in her book. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/trayvon_martin_and_the_flat_earth_society.html

  6. Tracy martin is still trying to re-write history:
    Trayvon Martin Support Page-The Fight For Justice Continues
    59 minutes ago
    “You can’t just judge a book by its cover. Something is wrong in so many ways to say that someone is suspicious just because you don’t know them.”

    — Tracy Martin
    12 people like this.

    Debbie Watkins Taylor that psycho had watched and waited on the oppurtunity to strike a lone black youth
    1 · 33 minutes ago

  7. More absurd trayvon nonsense from race hustler roland martin: WORCESTER — The Trayvon Martin case obliterated the idea that we live in a post-racial society, Roland Martin told an audience Thursday at Worcester State University.

    Mr. Zimmerman, who was acquitted of charges related to the shooting in a trial in 2013, instantly sized up Trayvon as a “thug” because of his race, Mr. Martin said. He said he has been asked why he believes so strongly that the Trayvon Martin killing had everything to do with race.

    “Because you can’t show me a 17-year-old white kid who ends up dead and nobody gets charged,” he said.

    Because of his race, Trayvon Martin was assumed guilty until proven innocent, Mr. Martin said.

    “Why? Because in America, we have not given African-Americans the benefit of the doubt,” he said.


  8. Just noticed your latest posts, Dave, and was wondering if you have been getting notifications of comments made on older blogs. I have received quite a few at DMan’s place but they are harmless. as have been all of the others.

    I will try to keep this simple but it looks to me like O’Connor and Lisa Bloom, among others, are doing their best to bring the story back to life and retry it.

    Today, I received a comment from AckbarSays blog. AckbarSays was our friend and had his own blog:


    Here is the comment as if appeared in my email today;

    New comment on AckbarSays

    mysteryquest1 commented on Standing Up for George Zimmerman.

    in response to ackbarsays:

    On the evening of February 26, 2012, at approximately 7:16PM, a white vigilante named George Zimmerman, fueled by racial animosity, called police to report that he was suspicious of an African-American child based entirely on his skin color and the hoodie sweatshirt he was wearing. George ignored clear instructions from police and chased down Trayvon […]

    Maybe you can explain to me how Zimmerman can claim to have his head slammed on the concrete 12+ times and have only a couple of scratches. In order for them to be sure he had a broken nose, an x-ray would have been needed which he didn’t bother to get. Even more importantly, Trayvon’s body was 10 feet from concrete which explains why Zimmerman’s injuries didn’t reflect his allegation his head was bounced on the concrete 12 times. It wasn’t even bounced once. Then there is the issue of Zimmerman’s gun which Trayvon somehow saw in the dark and the rain though Zimmerman claims he was literally sitting on it. What really happened is since prior burglaries were committed by African American men, since Trayvon Martin was AA, then he must be a burglar and since the last time Zimmerman called the police on a AA man, he left before they could show up. So he wasn’t going to take that chance this time. He would confront the guy himself. He ended up shooting him and then coming up with a bullshit ass story that his head was pounded on concrete and Martin reached for his gun. He figured that would be enough to make it self defense.

    Martin may well have hit Zimmerman once, and one could certainly see why. Here is this strange man who looked at him while he was in his car, and then was now following him on foot and according to Zimmerman, when Martin asked him why he was following him, does he say because I don’t know you, I’m with neighborhood watch, no he reaches into his pocket. That’s not threatening huh? Zimmerman self-defense story was one great big lie and there is no evidence to support it except him.

    The poster concludes with this link, a blog of which I have never heard until now:


    Here is more about mysteryquest1


    Notice the recent dates of the posts from his own blog.

    • Thanks for the links Jordan. I’m fascinated by the absolute refusal by those who support trayvon martin to deal in any semblance of fact, truth, or reality. The spend endless amounts of time attempting to rewrite the events, trying to rewrite and redefine the relevant laws and statutes, and trying to redefine the evidence. It also amazes me how the completely ignore literally 99% of the testimony, forensic evidence, physical evidence and expert testimony while simultaneously ignoring that Eric Holder’s own DOJ/FBI cleared Zimmerman of any racial motivation or animus literally two years ago yet they continue to self delude and rage on.

    • Bloom and O’Connor had their books in the works already during the trial. They are finishing the process. They are selling books and getting media exposure It seems that Bloom has sucked a lot of the air away from whatever O’Connor comes up.

  9. The Scheme Team is still actively trying to have SYG declared as racist against black people even though the senate judiciary committtee directly addressed this issue with the schemers and dismissed Crumps notion. I still find it absurd these fools are whining about a law that played no role whatsoever in the Dunn and Zimmerman matter: T“We have to look at “Stand Your Ground” for what it is; it’s an attempt by the gun manufacturers to sell more guns through fear,” Davis said of the law that has been criticized for playing to people’s fears and biases.

    Ms. Fulton, who sat alongside Davis, echoed the same sentiment.

    “People should really take a look at “Stand Your Ground” and really understand that it’s about perception,” she said. “It’s very difficult as a parent to relate to a law that gives a person with a gun so much authority.”

    “We have no clue what to tell our teenagers now. How many of our teenagers have to worry now about being perceived as criminals? This method of ‘let’s shoot first and ask questions later’ has to stop.”

    “’Stand Your Ground’ is not only a bad law, it’s a biased law,” said attorney Benjamin Crump, who went on to talk about Michael Giles case. Giles, a former U.S. airman, was sentenced to 25 years in a failed attempt to apply “Stand Your Ground” when he was attacked without provocation at a local gathering in Tallahassee, Florida.

    “It’s different when minorities claim Stand Your Ground verses the killers of Trayvon Martin or Jordan Davis,” said Crump. http://thegrio.com/2014/03/26/international-community-takes-issue-with-stand-your-ground/

    • Thanks… I’ll update my readers too 😀

      No idea what it’s all about really… getting updates just from docket entries is tantalizing but then frustrating.

  10. Interesting article on Hobby Lobby case that highlights a real problem for their position. When Hobby Lobby contacts an insurance company their money goes into a “pool” and becomes indistinguishable from the money of other clients of the insurance carrier. In short even if Hobby Lobby wins their case and does not have to provide coverage for their own employees to have access to the drugs, but since the money goes into a common pool, Hobby Lobby still ends up paying for what they object to when employees of other insured clients consume the drugs.

    Let’s breakdown the process by which Hobby Lobby “pays” for birth control: Under the Affordable Care Act, Hobby Lobby is required to pay money to an insurance company in exchange for insurance coverage for its employees. A Hobby Lobby employee could then go to her pharmacy and request one of the contested forms of contraception, which would then be paid for by the insurance company hired by Hobby Lobby. By the judgment of the owners of Hobby Lobby, this would mean that its own money would be channeled toward the purchase of potentially abortifacient materials.

    On the surface, this seems to make sense, but look at it from a different angle and the logic breaks down. What exactly would appease Hobby Lobby and other businesses with similar objections? Ostensibly Hobby Lobby would merely like to pay money to an insurance company in exchange for a coverage plan that does not extend to the contested forms of birth control. But this could still open the company up to identical hazards if that insurance company provided other customers with plans that did extend to those forms of birth control. This is because when a business pays an insurance company, the money the insurance company goes into a “pool” — this is, after all, how insurance works. When Hobby Lobby pays its bill to an insurance provider, its money becomes indistinguishable from other money paid by other corporations, and all of it forms a block of identical money, some of which will be used, so long as the insurance company offers plans extending to contraception, to pay for it.

    • Actually, it’s not Hobby Lobby’s money.

      It’s part of the employee’s overall compensation package, therefore it’s the employee’s money.

      They don’t get to dictate how the employees spend the paycheck part of their compensation, why should they have any say over any other parts of it.

  11. Part of the employee’s compensation plan is medical insurance. Hobby Lobby has the right to choose what kind of coverage they offer their employees as part of their compensation plan. The employees have the right to decide if they want to work for the wages and insurance coverage offered.

    Hobby Lobby is willing to pay for insurance that covers all types of birth control except one that causes an abortion. In my opinion, that is their right.

      • They cause a fertilized embryo to not be able to implant itself in the uterus. I suppose one could play word games and say that pregnancy doesn’t start until the embryo is implanted. Then you could say if pregnancy had not started, there was not abortion caused. That’s playing word games. Hobby Lobby’s objection is to causing the death of a fertilized embryo. They consider that to be the beginning of human life and they do not want to play a part in that by offering health insurance which covers it.

    • ” Hobby Lobby has the right to choose what kind of coverage they offer their employees as part of their compensation plan.”

      Previously, that may have been the case, but apparently under the ACA it no longer is.

      And like I said, it’s not the employer’s money paying for it, any more than the employer paid for the Big Mac one of their employees bought for cash after cashing their paycheck, or the tankful of gas they bought with their debit card after depositing their paycheck, and I doubt you’d stand for the employer forcing the employee to go to Burger King instead or telling them which brand of gasoline they had to buy or from which service station they had to get it.

  12. Natty’s Jacksons feral son is as big a bigoted douchebag as she is : Robert Mitchell ‏@RLM_3 6m
    .@VP_Renewsit Show me a law that says naming & shaming is not OK? You can’t. Judge Nelson released the names. Take it up with her. #Trayvon
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    Robert Mitchell ‏@RLM_3 11m
    If you’re upset about the names of the GZ jurors’ being released, take it up with Judge Nelson, not me. Thanks. 🙂 #TrayvonMartin
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    Robert Mitchell ‏@RLM_3 13m
    I’m sincerely glad my followers don’t do this —–> “Your mom is a whore.” Really? Are we in middle school? Keep it classy, GZ Trolls. Lol.
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    Robert Mitchell ‏@RLM_3 16m
    There are ~10 GZ trolls who spend their time on here tweeting me, even though they know they’ve been blocked. That’s a sad digital life.

  13. PNN –

    Labeling issue opponents as feral, or turds or whores adds nothing to discussion, but does put the labeler at the same level as he or she believes the intended target to be.

    I think you could make your points very clearly without the use of degrading ad hominems.

    • Mitchell is not Natalie’s son. Her son is Kevin Edwards.

      I repeat and ask AGAIN, save us the trouble of reading your immature insults David and just give us the substance.

        • There’s no reason to get down and dirty here David. You’ve been told a million times, none of us want to read your insulting immature rhetoric here.

          Fail to respect my wishes here and you’ll be put back on moderation. I’m through asking you.

        • “get over yourself with the self righteousness nettles I’ve seen you get down and dirty too so dont even go there with me”

          Have you seen me ‘get down and dirty’? I admit I’ve been less than diplomatic at times, and I value your perspective and insight at times, but it’s diminished when you mix it with juvenile insults. What is the point of calling someone a ‘whore’ or a ‘cunt’?

          Are we supposed to fight fire with fire? Is it now about who can be the most offensive? Who is best at provoking another into responding and then point the finger at them as the offender and claim yourself as the victim?

  14. For the benefit of readers here who are not on twitter, David and I recently had a public discussion on twitter about posting pictures of people’s kids.

    David posted someone else’s daughter and I tweeted out to him to take it off. He told me to F off and I responded he could F off.

    He did eventually take the pictures down.

    So my latest feedback about immature comments on this blog may be leaving David feeling I’m self righteous.

    I don’t think it’s too much to ask that at my own blog, I don’t read comments that feel like I’m at a TM support site. I want to read the comments devoid of insults.

    Again, my apologies to the readers here for yet another confrontation.

  15. This supporter of Kendrick Johnson has been going through my pictures on facebook and posting them to her twitter account.


    So now the kids in my family have become one of the many victims in this sorry saga.

    She was encouraged to find me by a tweeter named Hood on twitter. He is one of the most disgusting vile people I have run across in the case.

    Angel isn’t too bright though. She tweets Hood that finding Annette Kelly in the United States is like finding a needle in a haystack.

    Hood tells her I’m in Canada. He has since deleted that tweet. I helped them both out and tell them I’ve put my middle name on twitter so they don’t harass the wrong Annette Kelly. Finally Hood tweets, he found my facebook page. “It was an easy search”, he says. I can’t help but *face palm*

    I tweeted the links proving they were looking for me and a warning if I get harassed they will be suspects #1 and #2. I do believe I know their real life identities. Unlike me though, they both hide behind fake names in their online games.

    My facebook is open and it’ll stay that way. These bullies won’t be intimidating me to close it up so my friends and missing family can’t find me. I have a very large family and will have a ton of support if it’s needed.

    I wouldn’t react to this by posting pictures of Angel’s family. Otherwise, how could I hold this up as an example of vile if I did the same thing?

    Even still, Angel posted this yesterday,

    I have no idea who that man is. The Phelpston picture is from my facebook page.

    Looking at pictures of people I don’t know does nothing for me. I suspect it does nothing for anyone else either. So the only person these photos are meant to get a reaction from is the owner of the photos.

    I’ve blocked Angel and wouldn’t even have known about the postings had someone not sent it to me. I thank you for looking out for me, but I really don’t care to know about it. I can ignore this stuff much better if I don’t know about it. And in my opinion, this stuff needs to be ignored.

  16. I think that’s the late Fred Phelps, founder and head of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church. They are notorious for their anti-gay activism including picketing funerals of military personnel, celebrities, etc. to protest against gay rights. They aren’t allowed to enter Canada so you may never have heard of them.

    • Oh that’s the connection between the Phelpston photo and the man. Thank you for that.

      I have heard of this guy on the news. Disgusting behavior his church put on display at people’s funerals.

      Ironically, TM supporters just demonstrated the same disgusting behavior in posting hate to a GZ supporter’s family who recently died. Yet, they’d sit down and tell you how wrong Mr. Phelps was in doing it.

      Not sure how some people get so twisted and let their sense of right and wrong go out the window in their own behavior.

      Thanks for clearing that up for me.

    • Again, for the benefit of those not on twitter, this tweeter never paid any attention to the George Zimmerman case while the trial was going on.

      She started tweeting hate to George on December 27th saying he had no business being on twitter. You will recall, GZ joined twitter on Dec. 16th in an effort to sell his first painting.

      Prior to tweeting hate to George in December, she’d been tweeting hate to contestants on the Big Brother UK show and then Celebrity Chefs. Her twitter account began in January 2013.

      She didn’t follow the case and she’s read none of the facts. She has a need to lash out at others on twitter. Currently, I’m her target.

        • You don’t even have to tweet this person to attract her hate. She was posting vile comments to me in February and I’d never engaged her up to that time.

          After she inserted herself into a conversation and challenged others to find out who she was in real life on March 27th, I became curious about who she was and what her views on the Zimmerman case were.

          I was shocked to read her tweets to me in January/February. I must have blocked her on the first tweet as I am prone to do. When someone tweets me hate, I block it so I didn’t see all the hate that came after.

          Here I posted an example of her tweets to me.

          It’s bizarre to read such hate directed at you by a person you don’t even remember talking to. She doesn’t need much encouragement to hate a stranger.

          • Dang, Nettles, I admit to having a potty mouth in real life, but I clearly need to step-up my game. I’m an amateur compared to the vulgarities shown above.

  17. Do not – I repeat DO NOT – go ahead and look up PNN’s co-moniker on Urban Dictionary or other sources @ Google. It’s even more vile than that of a certain Captain Long D*ng Silver who thankfully no longer posts here.
    I’m guessing that most here didn’t “get it” the first time he posted his original moniker along with an accompanying avatar/picture of himself.


    Pirate News Network (@RustyTrombone75)
    April 1, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    • Pirate News Network and Captain Long Silver are the same person, David Piercy. Now he posts here as plain old Dave an Pirate New Network.

      He changes his name a lot but doesn’t do so in an effort to hide who he is. He never has to my knowledge.

      • I wondered about that. It’s so rare to come across such overt crassness in these threads that it stood out like a sore thumb to me. So now it makes perfect sense, tying the two together.

        Hope you’re well – I’ve been lurking pretty much every day and wish I had more time to join in. Best wishes to you and the Leafs. Hope to see you in the playoffs.

        xxx JB

    • That seemed out of the blue. What motivated you to post that?

      “go ahead and look up PNN’s co-moniker on Urban Dictionary or other sources”

      I don’t see the significance of this? I think most know what “Captain Long Dong Silver” means. It doesn’t really require a google.

      I think you know it’s the same person. So again, gotta wonder what motivated your post?

        • Hey Cassandra, thanks for that !. Been out of the loop for a few days so you seem to have represented me well while I was gone.

          I became a granduncle once again for around the two-dozenth time, as the stork delivered a sweet new bundle of joy last week. It’s amazing – you’d think we never saw a days-old baby girl before . . . and I’m the oldest of nine!
          * * *
          Cassandra, a while back I saw your little bio and it touched me to read it. As we get to know each other in this Nettles Family, we imagine the details of the lives of our friends here to try to fill in the empty spaces, and your story pretty much matched up with what I thought it would be, impressive as it was. BTW, do you remember which thread it was in? I wanted to bookmark it at that time, but forgot.

          Thanks again. Much love to you and yours there in Berkeley, from where I have many pleasant memories.

          • Hey JB,

            congrats, babies are miracles, so much joy.

            Not sure when and if I will get to a grandma, crossing my fingers, my oldest married a woman who does not want children, my younger son promised he would have kids and I need not worry.

            are you referring to my sharing about my dad demise from alcoholism and coming to terms with family members mental health problems?

            or my motivation to improve school and neighborhood safety?

            thanks for the love and support, got to say my kids and husband are thriving it is me that needs a new lease on life. Many of you motivate me to keep growing and I truly value these virtual friendships.

  18. Don’t be fooled by fake George Zimmerman art
    By Jonathan Capehart April 7 at 12:19 pm

    This image of George Zimmerman was taken from a video released by attorney Howard Iken, who is representing Zimmerman in his divorce, on March 12, 2014. (AP)
    This image of George Zimmerman was taken from a video released by attorney Howard Iken, who is representing Zimmerman in his divorce, on March 12, 2014. (AP)

    The story was too shocking — even for the person at the center of it. After all, this was the same man who was going to take part in a “celebrity” boxing match. George Zimmerman, the killer of Trayvon Martin, sold a painting of the hoodie-wearing unarmed 17-year-old for $30,000 in an online auction. The photo of a smiling Zimmerman holding the artwork with “Justice for all” lightly painted in the background is as galling as it is tasteless.

    And it’s a fake.

    That Zimmerman is painting isn’t news. His $100,000 eBay sale and the dust-up with the Associated Press over his use of their photo of Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have made headlines. But upon seeing what was billed Zimmerman’s latest sale on a friend’s Facebook page, I immediately contacted Robert Zimmerman Jr., George’s brother. His response was swift.

    “If that were true I would denounce it as repulsive myself,” Robert wrote me. “There is no way George would even contemplate disparaging the likeness of Trayvon Martin. Professional digital pot-stirrers are ‘at it again’ and amusing themselves by disrespecting a tragedy.” He added, “The circulation of these fraudulent images puts George in danger. People who believe the stories are rightfully incensed. It appears that is the objective of the parties behind the fabrication of the false news stories and forged art.”

    Even the smallest amount of effort would have uncovered all of this as a fake. The site featuring the Zimmerman story is called “TheNewsNerd.” Find it for yourself. That I’m even mentioning it at all is more than it deserves. Anyway, when you scroll down to the bottom of the site, you’ll see the following message.

    (Screenshot from TheNewsNerd)
    (Screenshot from TheNewsNerd)

    The stories are “for entertainment purposes only.” They “are purely satirical.” And they are not funny. Not in the slightest. This particular “story” roiled emotions that ranged from “oh NO he didn’t!” to pure rage. I’m all for good satire, but this was dumb and dangerous.

  19. If you want to know the whole story on Common Core than you need to watch this. It’s a documentary based on the New Jersey school system which spends more on per pupil than any other State in the nation. This is The Cartel documentary:

    • Hey Stranger! Great to hear from you again. Check your email, I sent you the passwords to some protected threads on the blog if you have any interest.

      I trust life is going well for you? I sure hope so. Great to hear from you again.

        • Yes. and I am not the least bit surprised by the corruption and malfeasance and teacher union protection of dangerous and ineffective teachers.

          • cassandra, First I must apologize. I wanted you to watch that video first because it sets a backdrop of what we are dealing with in the realm of education. When that video compared NJ to Maryland as both small states with high pop. density, and then informed that Maryland had 24 school districts and NJ had over 600+ school districts … my eyeballs popped. The cost to maintain administration and staff for that many districts is just astronomical. My apology comes because there WAS NO mention of Common Core in THAT video. Just on the corruption. I duped you in a way to follow me along on this journey. Now, with the corruption part firmly under our belts … let us move on to COMMON CORE. I posted this else where and was criticized because the documentary was produced by the Home School people. Hardly a fanatical group, but I do acknowlege that they do have a dog in the fight. With that said, I now offer to you … nothing about corrption, but an entire documentary on Common Core. It is no where near as long as the last one and goes quickely. It’s 40 min. It’s called Building the Machine. It just came out actually. It does present both sides, so watch this one when you have the time and let me have your comments.

            • thanks, when I have a chance I will watch it and if there is something worthwhile to say I will consider commenting.

                • Great video. Presents a lot of information about how Common Core was crammed down the throats of the states, and debunks the claim that CC is a state led initiative.

                • Ottawa925.

                  I did not find the film useful to any of the challenges meeting k-12 education to be honest. The “arguments’ by the committee members were vague at best and empty of content, they could easily produce a minority report which many publication would print.

                  Honestly, I am baffled by all the drama about something as basic as unifying standards nationally.

                  If you do not like the fact that your state voted to adopt the CCSS complain to your governor or legislators, none of whom will complain the feds shoved it down their throats.

                  • http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/04/the-common-core-movie-a-review/

                    Michael McShane ( interviewed for the film)

                    ….The film just moves on without addressing what would appear to be a central argument supporting the standards—they’re better. OK, universities might dumb down their standards, but if the standards are better, it is hard to pin that on the Common Core. Again, lost me.

                    In the children-as-widgets section the movies talks about how preparation for careers is a limiting view of what education should be. OK, fine, I agree. But you can’t use the recession as evidence of a work-force catastrophe and then knock career preparation.

                    This, I think, is the fundamental weakness of the film. It makes arguments like a toddler laying across a Whack-a-Mole game. Rather than giving a satisfying thwap to the animatonic heads of Common Core supporters who rally behind empty phrases like “international benchmarking” and “college and career readiness,” it barely taps any and all arguments that it can. Sure, it might win tickets, but the prizes are crap. The real satisfaction comes in that well crafted, coherent argument that sends your opponent back to where they came from, and this movie doesn’t deliver it.

                    “Building the Machine’s” disjointed and contradictory criticism is emblematic of many sectors of the larger anti-Common Core coalition, especially on the political right. By glomming on to every critique of the standards from the left and right alike, they end up appearing to hold completely inconsistent positions. I can’t tell you how many emails I’ve gotten from the Pioneer Institute touting Diane Ravitch’s or teachers unions’ opposition to the standards. Cheering the NYSUT’s decision to oppose the Common Core because of its integration into teacher evaluation systems risks taking the evaluation systems down with the Common Core. Hate to break it to y’all, but I don’t think they want to replace those accountability programs or the Common Core with a decentralized system of parent choice.

                    There’s a case to be made, one that doesn’t involve papering over logical inconsistencies with vague conspiracy mongering. Many Common Core critics haven’t been able to make it, and unfortunately “Building the Machine” couldn’t either.

                  • I say let it fail on it’s own. That’s the only way to prove to people it doesn’t work. I can be selfish and say that because I don’t have any kids in school. Common Core will be stuck with whatever the results are. The only part of Common Core that affects me is the increase in costs. They want all the latest technology in the classroom, but haven’t a clue on how to pay for it. Further, I find it amusing that Silicon Valley sends all its kids to the Waldorf Schools. The very people who are in the technology industry send THEIR kids to school where they do not use the lastest technology in the classroom. Just pen/pencil/paper/blackboard/chalk and (GASP) … shelves and shelves of BOOKS. What a NOVEL ideal !!! (cough).


                    • Technology in the classroom provides a very important tool for classroom teachers to deploy differentiated curriculum. Technology is particularly helpful for ESL instruction and working on research projects within a classroom of various ability and skills.

                      I am very familiar with Waldorf schools here in the bay area, there are many reasons why those executives find it appropriate fit for their kids.

              • had to move over so post wasn’t so far to the right …. wanna tell me why they think it’s appropriate. Look … I don’t aprove of CC. That’s the bottomline for me. We just got through defeating a referendum to raise property taxes to sustain the mismanagement of money by the schools, and keep up with throwing out of 4 year old computers to replace them with brand new Apple computers. Sweet deal for Apple getting into the education business which is full of corruption to begin with. I’d like to own an Apple but cannot afford it. I can only afford a not so top of the line HP. Property taxes is what pays for these schools except the spending is so out of control, that people simply cannot afford it. When the taxes you pay don’t reflect the house you live in because school costs are so high, you can’t even SELL your home to get out from under. House price may be ok, but when they hear how much the taxes are they run for the hills. So you have people who are STUCK. If they want the technology then parents need to pay extra and stop expecting taxpayers to pay for every new gadget known to mankind.

          • I get an email for every comment posted so I seen it in the email. Also wordpress gives me a list of comments made to the blog since I last visited, so I’m in no jeopardy to miss anyone’s post.

            My phone alerts me with a noise when I get a new email. I can preview the comment and if it needs immediate attention, jump on and take care of the issue and go back to regular duties. I can post from my phone, work computer or home computer. Easy, breazy.

            As the WarRoom doesn’t list in recent comments, I would recommend to everyone to click the notify me of follow-up comments box for that thread, so you too can get an email of any new comments after your visit.

            Thanks for the heads up though. 🙂

    • I’m probably not as careful as most people are. I figure at my age there’s not much they can do to me except maybe steal a few years of my life. They can’t get me fired and they can’t take away my pension. If they kill me, they won’t be stealing too many years. Nevertheless, I’m not going to go out of my way to help those criminals find a victim.

      • As we have seen, these idiots don’t stick to who they have issues with. They put innocent people’s lives in harms way. Children, wrong people, work places, so many levels of wrong. Not worth it. AND the ones doing it, they aren’t being open with their identity either. There have always been overboard crazy people with an agenda. Social Media has just made it easier for them. Sit behind a screen and do whatever they feel they can. Look at the people who had their address tweeted out in error! Nope. Too many people with agendas. Most not good.

    • Sue is my real name, but I don’t Twitter or do Facebook, so that helps keep me out of the line of fire… I hope! And there are a lot of Sues around, which helps, too! 😀

    • Over 12,000 words, but well worth the time it takes to read the whole story. Unreal!!!

      You’ll get a kick out of the “Comments” section – try keeping count of tags like #concreteshoes, #swim with the fish, #rat, #snitch, etc. Let’s see who has a ransom on their head NOW . . . (though of course I wouldn’t wish that on anybody, which is probably GZ’s sentiments as well).

      As Matt Drudge would type up, “. . . DEVELOPING . . .”

      From back in the day – Dylan: ” . . . how does it feel . . .”

      • LOL yes it was a good read. He always disgusted me so I never really “followed” him. VP was telling me Al got stabbed at a rally, then posted a pix. If he were at his weight he is now, it would have “kilt” him . Yes… wonder what… as Paul Harvey would say… the rest of the story 😉 Great to “see you”

  20. ROFLMBO! Ummm guess the race baiting/hating have wised up 🙂 Leatherhead gonna have to find a new case to try and stir the race pot…
    April 8, 2014
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    • Shhhh, Mimi! Don’t give him any ideas 🙂 As long as the BGI thrives, there will always be more bubbling cauldrons, with plenty of racists to stoke the fires. I’m surprised he hasn’t moved on to more current events already… enough out there to feather his nest for a nice retirement. I think he’s just gotten lazy 😉

    • I like his message from 4/7 too: “This is our 961st post. Please consider making a donation today so that we can continue our in-depth reporting.”

      I guess there must be some sort of expensive involved in his “copy&paste” reporting. 🙂

      • I suppose he want “paid by keystroke” huh lmbo. Waving big my TEXAS CUZ 🙂 You still holding down the Great State of Tumbleweed for us? Love yall to pieces, same as I do Nettles, And just like I told her awhile back, love is a good thing, but you don’t have to overcompensate with all this crazy weather sharing! Praying you and yours came out safe this last go around with SPRING weather storms.

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